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Torless Carraz's avatar

Another banger by the based bear.

This is a sensible summary of your views, with convincing arguments. There's something I'm not sure about.

It is my understanding that, in late Roman empire, mariage had become a bad choice for both parties, especially for women, who then massively became christians as it expected stronger commitments from men. The Collins couple talk about this, commenting a Scott Alexander article as I recall. And nowadays I don't see how the current situation is beneficial to the average woman either, as there's no expected commitment from men. It seems like a downward spiral for both parties to be fair. It mostly benefits to very promiscuous women and very promiscuous men, not to the average male or the average female.

Much to ponder, great work as always!

Curt Kepler's avatar

The problem of declining marriage seems intrinsically hard to stop in the modern technological landscape. Previously, most high productivity labor was physical (e.g., farming, construction, etc.). Men had an inherent advantage in labor. Women *had* to marry young for financial support.

Now, with modern technology, most high productivity labor is intellectual (e.g., lawyers, data scientists, etc.). Because women can now earn similar wages to men, they have little need for marriage. They can achieve financial stability on their own. And so, they prioritize career over family, sleep around in their youth, and don't fear divorce. Many men are frustrated that earning a strong paycheck no longer guarantees marriage as it once did, and so "defect" from working as you describe.

I reckon that our cultural norms re marriage are all downstream from these material trends.

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